Metal Detectors- Whites vs. Minelab in England

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By Treasured Pasts

The Competitors

Minelab Explorer with Sunray Pinpointer (Left) Whites MXT on Right
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Minelab Explorer with Sunray Pinpointer (Left) Whites MXT on Right

Metal Detecting

DFX Gold Methods (Finding Gold Jewelry with the White's Spectrum DFX "E" Series Metal Detector)
Amazon Price: $15.95
Digging Deeper with the DFX
Amazon Price: $28.45
SUN RAY INVADER XL-1 TARGET PROBE
Amazon Price: $189.00
"The MXT Edge"
Amazon Price: $19.95
Garrett GTI 2500 Metal Detector
Amazon Price: $934.95
List Price: $1,099.95
Tesoro Lobo SuperTRAQ Metal Detector
Amazon Price: $679.15
List Price: $799.00
Minelab Excalibur II (Two) 1000 Underwater Metal Detector
Amazon Price: $1,349.00
List Price: $1,395.00

The Competitors

 

It became the game of the day on the most recent trip to England with Discovery Tours. Would the Whites detectors (mostly MXTs) beat out the Minelabs (mostly Explorers)?  It’s an important battle if you are going over there to use your detector. You will want to be as successful as possible, and some detectors just don’t measure up. Don’t spend $3000 or more and take a $200 radio Shack detector with you. You will be sorely disappointed. Whites and Minelabs, although being the most common on our trip, were not the only ones. Tesoro was also pretty common. The battle however was between the giants!

The Whites MXT detector

 

Those that used the MXT, and to a lesser degree, the DFX had every successful trips. The Whites definitely had some advantages over the Minelabs especially as the day wore on. We usually hit the fields around 8 am and finished around 5 pm. The Whites detectors are markedly lighter and better balanced. You could swing for a long time without getting fatigued. You could also swing a heavier, larger coil. The two popular ones were the Bigfoot coil which covered a large swath but didn’t go very deep, and the large Hot Shot coil made for Whites detectors. This coil was larger and yet much lighter than the standard 10 inch coil that comes with the detector.

The other advantage of the Whites detector was the speed of the target response. There were times we were turned loose in fields which had never been searched.  You could go for a long time before targets started to show up. The faster target response meant that you could move quickly across an unknown field to locate the signals. My estimate is that you could cover twice the area in the same amount of time and still get good response from targets.

Response to large targets is a given. Any detector can find something as large as a large cent, or greenie in the field. The question is  can you find 1/4th of a hammered silver penny that is as thin as the lid of a tin can but only as big as a fourth of a dime? Further, could you find them with any depth? The number of hammered coins and Romans found with the Whites was impressive making it a great detector for England.

The last consideration was the weather. The Whites detectors have waterproofing raincoats to protect them in the rain. It isn’t meant for a downpour which we encountered several times. Most everyone brought duct tape and plastic bags to wrap the detectors in to keep them dry and free of mud.

Some of the many finds

Henry III Penny cut to 1/4 1247-1272 a.d.(enlarged)
Henry III Penny cut to 1/4 1247-1272 a.d.(enlarged)
Royal Coin Weight- Note the faint R and the remaining guilding- 17th Century
Royal Coin Weight- Note the faint R and the remaining guilding- 17th Century
Henry III Long Cross Penny cut to farthing 1247-1250 a.d.
Henry III Long Cross Penny cut to farthing 1247-1250 a.d.
Young Queen Victoria Half Penny (Greenie)
Young Queen Victoria Half Penny (Greenie)
Full Hammered Penny (Dime Size) & Quarter Penny
Full Hammered Penny (Dime Size) & Quarter Penny
Hammered Silver Coins- Note Face on top one. (Henry III)
Hammered Silver Coins- Note Face on top one. (Henry III)

The Minelab Explorer

 

The Minelab Explorer definitely earned its points in England. It is a heavier and less responsive detector than the Whites. It does take some stamina to swing it all day long. The newer ones have lighter coils but still are heavier than its competitor. The speed for good target response is much slower, especially on small targets. I found that by shortening the rod and keeping the coil close to my feet, I could go longer.

Where the Minelab shines is once you know you are in a productive area. The response to very small targets is outstanding. Gold and ¼ pennies come in strong signaling in the lower tone id area that says hammered coin or gold. I found that this was the strong side of this detector finding as many as six hammered silver coins in one day. These are, after all, the target coins for English detectorists.

I have also attached a SunRay pinpointing probe to the Minelab. I believe they are available now on the Whites detectors also. These great little tools allow you to use the detector electronics to locate very small targets that you found in regular mode. Had I not had it, I would definitely have missed a ¼ penny in a muddy field! The problem with this tool is that you switch the detector from detect to pinpoint mode. If you forget to switch back, you will not be detecting when you think you are. That happened several times and can be very frustrating.

The key with the Minelab is DON’T GET IT WET! If you do, you are out of business. I always take two detectors to England just in case.  If you have the pinpointer coil, the connection box is a real problem area for water. Keep it wrapped if encountering wet weather.

Conclusions

First be aware that experience is key. I have used a number of detectors over the last 30 years. Reading the paragraphs above, you would think I would choose Whites over the Minelab. Not true. I took both to England and used the Minelab at least 90% o the time. I consistently ranked among the leaders in quantity of artifacts, number of hammered coins, and won the top banana award twice.  I enjoyed the competitive atmosphere and saw great finds with both. Searching unknown areas gave advantage to the Whites. When in an area that we knew had finds, the Minelab’s ability to pick out tiny targets from the iron junk in the field overtook the advantages of the Whites. As far as the weight, I had three ways to combat that. First, get that coil close to your body; second, learn to detect using both arms; and third, dig so many good targets that you’re not swinging all day. You spend a lot of time digging and showing off.

Enjoy your Treasured Pasts

Stuart

 

Comments

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DetectorX 2 years ago

Theres no way you can even begin to compare a Whites MXT, XLT, or DFX to an Minelan Explorer XS,SE, or SE Pro! Theres just no comparison the Minelabs are deeper and MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE all around!

The only arena Whites has Minelab beat in is weight and balance.

I personally have years of experience using both XLT's, MXT and different versions of the Explorer. Dont get me wrong I love Whites metal detectors. Putting my XLT down for an Explorer was one of the hardest things Ive ever done!

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Treasured Pasts Hub Author 2 years ago

DetectorX

I can only agree with you to a point. I also have detected for years with every type of detector from the shadows to tesoro, fisher, you name it. My choice is the Minelab in most circumstances and my best finds are with the minelab. I probably hunt 9 out of 10 hours with it. Where I had to make changes was when the area was unknown and had to be scanned quickly with a lot of dead ground. The minelab response time is too slow for that kind of hunting. Also, the minelab is very moisture sensitive and on very wet and rainy days had problems if the waterproofing cover (and I used many from dry cleaner bags, to saran wrap)failed. The Whites was much less prone to the water. Thanks for the comments.

raman_iraq 2 years ago

help plz whites xlt spectrum e-series

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Treasured Pasts Hub Author 2 years ago

Raman_iraq

Not sure what your asking but if you are wondering if the Spectrum XLT is a good detector, it definately is. There is newer technology out there now but I made many good finds with my old XLT!!!

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doodlebugs Level 4 Commenter 22 months ago

Great article. I bought the White's Spectra V3i and am very happy with it. I wrote a review here about it: http://hubpages.com/hub/Review-Of-The-Whites-Spect

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Treasured Pasts Hub Author 22 months ago

I can't wait to see the improvements that continue to be made on detectors. I'm sure Jimmy will have the next latest greatest (V3i)out in the field ready to tackle those Minelabs and all other takers. It adds a degree of fun to the hunt for the TOP BANANA prize.

marcus 21 months ago

i had the old version whites eagle spectrum

had some great finds with it so i cant knock

whites but ive now got an minelab explorer xs no fantastic finds as yet im still waiting its not as well built as the whites the minelab have a weak point where the top stem fits into the controll box but i will say 1 thing the minelab goes real deep

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Treasured Pasts Hub Author 21 months ago

Hi Marcus,

Make sure the rod is pushed all the way into the housing and lock down. It should go in about an inch and be secure. As for finds, be patient. You are learning a new detector with very different characteristics from the Whites. Get some of the books out there with hunting tips and especially remember THE WHITES IS A FAST DETECTOR which means it works better witha faster sweep. The MINELAB is a slow detector meaning it works better at a slower pace.

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jackavc 16 months ago

Great hub. I use minelab sd,s and gps in Australia because we only really go for gold. Would love to come to the states and do some relic hunting. Also would love to find some roman artifacts in Europe . Really enjoy your hubs. :)

Chris_in_BC 13 months ago

I've got a white's silver eagle -- have had it since 93 I think...can't quite remember -- I'm wondering if I can detect in the rain with it? It has a BlueMax deepscan 950 coil on it, and came with a small cover for the display screen and another for the box, but I've never chanced it. Anyone have experience with wet weather detecting?

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Treasured Pasts Hub Author 13 months ago

Chris

You can detect in the rain as long as you dont get the box wet. A good way to do this is to get a plastic laundry bag like they put over clothes that they have cleaned. Slip the detector in the bag loosely so you can still grasp the handle and operate all controls. Then duct tape it around the tube. While detecting, do not tilt the detector so water runs from the coil to the box. We did this in England and detected all day in the rain.

Stuart

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Jonathan Grimes Level 2 Commenter 5 months ago

Got to the Explorer for me as I have found some great hammered coins with it.I placed one on my new blog here and its a large scan of the coin so you can see the detail.

http://metaldetectorreviewsuk.com/metal-detecting-

Thanks

Jon

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